Compassion and Capitalism with Ryan Moran | AMP #153

Compassion and Capitalism with Ryan Moran | AMP #153

We’re all Team Earth, and the earth needs help. Ryan Moran, a successful entrepreneur and the CEO of, comes on the podcast to explore the “How.” How can we, Team Earth, best solve the problems that lay before us? I think you can guess his answer, and we’d love to hear yours.


  • Hi there. Just catching up on the podcasts. As a huge proponent of capitalism with an education in economics, I’m mostly 100% in agreement with everything you guys talked about on this episode, I think Mr. Moran missed something in his economics and capitalist doctrine though. Its true ownership creates the most solutions with most things that we benefit from. In economics we call them normal goods. Capitalism is a set of rules created as the medicine, if you will, or the prescription to the problem of human self interest. It’s not simply to create freedom, it’s to mitigate and harness the power of human creativity and natural self interested behavior. Public goods play out differently in the math than normal goods do. Something like fire and police. Markets do not distribute these kinds of goods as efficiently as the public does. Same thing with military. Imagine each person purchasing their own security or fire services.

    The ocean, public lands, the air etc etc and other natural resources can fall under the public goods category. They do have value and we all consume them, so we all protect them with laws. Private markets do not distribute or protect public goods and services better than the government because of demonstrateable utility calaculations. This all fits into capitalist doctrine nicely because capitalism acknowledges the findings of proper economics.

    Pollution and other infringements on public and private goods are called externalities and are big no nos under capitalism, and is where the proper use of government comes in. Unfortunately we are very bad at practicing real economic based capitalism, and often those that say they are practicing capitalism are actually leaning toward socialism, because business in government is identical to government in business. They are actually simply practicing self interest which capitalsim was designed to mitigate the negative effects of.

    The kicker here is that things like Health care, and education are actually mislabeled. They are actually public goods. Many capitalists think they are private goods and better distributed by markets, but in reality we all benefit from a healthy and educated populace. The math works out that we are stealing from people who pay for good health care and education because it does benefit us too and we are not paying for it. This by definition makes it a public good. The issue is how we look at human beings. It might sound cold, but human beings are our most important infrastructure and it benefits us greatly as a society to invest in that infrastructure. This is where a lot of people that think they are practicing capitalism loose sight of the the real economics.

    Good stuff. Thanks for everything.

  • First of all, I agree government mostly sucks giant, hairy ball sacks, and is absolutely untrustworthy. Secondly, I think you both made many good points in this conversation which made me really think, but I am left feeling a little sick to my stomach. My most important question is, what about the agrochemical giants like Monsanto/Bayer/Pfizer? They are genetically modifying our food and forcing that DNA out to the environment, while hiding it from the public, and operating with basically NO REGULATION. (They say they are regulated, but they actually regulate themselves, so no, they are not regulated) You can say, “If you don’t like it, don’t buy it”, but it’s already too late by then. Once GM plant or animal DNA is out in the environment, it can not be recalled, and we have no way of knowing what the ecological (or biological) impact of that has been, or will be. Genetically modified DNA (or RNA) contaminates un-modified DNA through cross-pollination, or random breeding and can not be controlled. Furthermore, when their DNA markers are found in other plants or animals, that gives the developer intellectual property rights to them, meaning all of a sudden, they own your food—and everyone else’s! Do you really think companies like this should not be regulated? If so, I think that is a pretty near-sighted, and frankly, fucked-up way to think. Again, our shitbag government is in bed with these industries, so I am not arguing that government is helpful here, but, you want to talk about forcing something on people? What about forcing people to unknowingly eat your bioengineered DNA shit sandwich, and then forcing farmers to pay for you cross-contaminating their fields? Somebody has to stop that shit in its tracks because we may all be fucked before most people even know what’s happening. And I “can’t even” with the privatizing everything public. I think you guys need to really dig deep with some biologists and ecologists that are not sold out to industries (or the academic system, which is also sold out to industries) and do some follow-up here. THIS is why people like me have a very hard time with the idea that capitalism is the pill for every ill…. Please, for the love of Earth, keep educating yourselves in this particular area and follow-up for the people who don’t even know to ask this question…. I am glad you acknowledged that the environment is important, but maybe acknowledge that it is so important that it should be the first consideration, not the one that’s [not really your area] when you are touting the benefits of capitalism. Now how do I make a puke emoji?

    Erin G
  • I love you Aubrey, I bought your book, you are the man. That said, this conversation of capitalism is severely lacking an opposing voice. You guys attempted to tackle environmental issues but it was extremely pie in the sky. You did not mention Wall Street at all. The last time “capitalism” was allowed to run free we saw the entire economy collapse, millions of people lost their homes and jobs and a huge percentage of wealth which is a finite resource was transferred to those with wealth. Our world is monopolized. There are cures for disease that are not on the market because the pharmaceutical companies don’t make money on cures and they have the resources to crush the competition. There are energy solutions that are cheaper and cleaner than oil, yet they are stifled because the resources are controlled by entities that are concerned with money over society. Capitalism is a societal model just as Socialism is, just as Communism, etc. The idea being that these systems are all created to serve the greater society. That is why it is imperative that a system be in place to break up monopolies.

    Another lacking area is the debate about what to do with people who don’t have capacity to take care of themselves. Mentally ill, addicts, orphans, elderly without family, etc. Sure the market may have some solutions, but if these people don’t have the capacity to pay for these solutions then they are going to end up on the streets, end up suffering, end up being a casualty of the system. This is the ugly side of social Darwinism. It’s nice to think that we all want to help one another, but unfortunately the people with the resources are not adequately putting them back into the system. I’d love to hear a podcast with the rebuttal to this. This was severely lacking an opposing voice.

    Bill Clifford
  • There’s an obvious solution here to me it seems:

    Attorneys that represent public resources (air, water, etc.) and that ARE financially incentivized (instead of pro-bono.) Financially driven solution to protect (Ryan’s argument), and without complicated/perhaps impossible ownership (Aubrey’s argument).


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